Today Natalie Valle, a multidisciplinary healer and leader in the wellness space, shares her journey into the world of yoga, sound healing, and Dharma coaching. She shares how yoga and meditation helped her find her purpose and led her to become a Nike mindfulness coach. Natalie also dishes on crucial pieces to finding your dharma and how using sound can help you manifest your desires.

Listen in and discover:
🔹How yoga and meditation can help individuals find their purpose and lead them to their Dharma.
🔹Following curiosity and removing attachment to outcomes is essential when exploring one’s Dharma.
🔹Self-care, non-attachment, and trust are crucial in the manifestation process.

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Natalie is a multidisciplinary healer and leader in the wellness space, based in Los Angeles. A signed Nike Mindfulness Coach with a background and certifications in Soundology, Reiki Master, Chopra Institute Wellness Coach and Meditation Teacher, Dharma Coaching, Yoga Teacher Training (RYT 200), and EFT. Natalie has been featured in the LA Times, Well + Good, and Business Insider, and has headlined yoga festivals such as Wanderlust, Bhakti Fest, and many more.

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Transcript:

Brett:
Hello my friends, welcome back to the show. I am here today with my friend, Natalie Valle. She is a multidisciplinary healer and leader in the wellness space. She’s based in Los Angeles. She’s a signed Nike mindfulness coach. I want to hear about that. And she has certifications in sound ologies. She’s a Ricky master. She’s a Chopra Institute wellness coach, a meditation teacher. She does Dharma coaching. Of course she’s a yoga teacher.

And that’s what we’re going to kind of double click into today, this idea of Dharma, because it’s kind of a buzzword. I think we often are confused about what it actually means. So Natalie, I’m so excited that you’re here and that we get to chat again. How are you?

Natalie Valle:
Yes, thank you so much for having me. It was such a treat getting to interview you. So being on the other side is always fun.

Brett:
Yay. Well, tell us a little bit about how you became a Nike mindfulness coach, because that just sounds incredibly cool. But also just a little bit about your background, your work in the world and how you got focused on this concept of Dharma.

Natalie Valle:
Absolutely, so I’ll tackle the first question. You know what? I’ll tell you my backstory and then in that I’ll leave how Nike came into the picture. So yoga really found me when I was in college back when I was 19. I was in a pretty lost place in life trying to figure out my place in the world and was coping with a lot of just over usage of substances, a lot of partying, disordered eating and…

Really, yoga was my first initiation into the world that I’m in today, as for most of us is, yoga was such a gateway for me. And I’m so grateful for it because I needed some additional credits to graduate and I thought, I’ll just pick a movement elective, that way I’ll get to exercise and it’ll be an easy class that I don’t have to worry about studying too hard for. And lo and behold, the teacher ended up being this incredible.

yoga and Pilates instructor. So for a whole semester, I was just immersed in yoga and Pilates and they say like, you never forget your firsts. And for me, one of those was my first Shavasana. I even remember the song that was playing because it was just such, it was like this out of body sense of compassion for my body that I’d never experienced before.

And that just became the seed that started to unfold into this deep sense of reverence for my body, honoring my body through movement, through yoga. And then from that came meditation. So by the time I graduated college, I was like, I don’t want to stay in Florida anymore. I was in Florida at the time. I want to move to a big city. I want to figure out who I am. I’m Salvadorian. I’m Mayan. Like warm weather is my vibe. Like I don’t…

do very well in the cold, so I thought I’ll just move to LA. Had never been to LA, picked Los Angeles on a whim, which I now realize we’ll talk about Dharma. It was such a big part of my Dharma to be in Los Angeles. And moved here, was in the tech space, in the software space for a while, and was kind of just exploring the buffet of wellness that Los Angeles is. And through that, I really deepened my yoga practice, wanderlust.

in Hollywood became my home studio. And that’s where I met who became my sound teacher and Kundalini teacher, Lauren Wagner. And before I knew it, I was invited to do a training with her. And it was one of those things that I, it felt like a full body yes, but I didn’t know why. I had no intention of being a sound practitioner. I had been to some sound baths, but you know, I was saving up to do my yoga teacher training, but sound is where I really started.

as a practitioner, and that was about six, seven years ago. And I just remember day one of that training, this light was sparked inside of me that has only continued to glow and grow and light my path. And after my soundology training, then came my 200 hour yoga teacher training, then came Reiki master, then came, you know, Dharma coaching, EFT as…

We tend to be multidisciplinary. I wanted to learn all the things. But sound really was the first modality that I began to facilitate and teach. And to this day, it’s really the biggest pillar of my work and my practice. And it’s been such a gift because I get to work with so many different individuals and…

share this modality that can be so profound and yet so accessible because you just receive and then you notice what comes up. And yeah, and that’s how I kind of got started in this whole space that I’m in today. And it’s been such a beautiful, such a beautiful journey.

Brett 

And the sound healing you’re doing, that’s you playing bowls, I’m assuming, and other people are receiving. Nice.

Natalie Valle

Yeah, exactly. So I work a lot with tuning forks, with singing bowls, with gongs. I’ve started to experiment with chanting and the voice. I mean, you know, the Vedas and the Vedic tradition, the Siddhas all knew the power of mantra chanting. And, you know, in Kirtan, we chant and show devotion in that way. And there is so much power in the voice that I think so many of us forget, you know, there.

is this quote by a Sufi master that says, most people don’t realize that they already have the most powerful instrument known to humankind, and that is the voice, because it’s the only instrument that contains consciousness. And so I’m starting to experiment more with the voice as well, which has been a big throat chakra and blockage, just owning that and feeling empowered in that, but also chanting with people is so powerful too.

Brett

I love it. I love how you’re in all the modalities and it sounds like probably a lot of people listening, because I know, you know, we’re all addicted to the trainings and the different things that we can integrate and bring together. So how did your focus on Dharma come about or doing Dharma coaching? Maybe you want to define that word for people or what’s your definition of it.

Natalie Valle

Yeah, I’ll give you my definition because I think, especially in Western culture, we think about Dharma as it relates to our work and our career. And that is where I tend to focus with a lot of my clients. I tend to work with a lot of people who want to infuse their work in with their Dharma. But Dharma is really our sole purpose, our purpose for the incarnation in this lifetime. And so that can look like…

mothering beautiful children that can look like the work that we do, what we do for money and the services and offerings that we share, that can also look like just being a beautiful child of this earth and giving back to the planet, giving back to the earth. And so really, when I think of the term dharma, I think of soul purpose.

But in the way in which I work with people is specifically in how that relates to the work that we share, the work that we do. Because when we’re able to, there is this beautiful Japanese term, ikigai, when we’re able to infuse our passions and what we love in addition to what’s needed in the world, the combination of those two is really such a beautiful sweet spot that can bring so much fulfillment and can help us share what it is that we’re meant to share in this lifetime.

And so for me, it’s funny because when I was in university, I thought I wanted to be a career counselor, helping people with their careers in college. And then I kind of went through this whole journey of discovering my own, you know, sole purpose, my own path in this lifetime, and came back to this place of supporting people and figuring out their own journeys and paths. And so…

You know, at the time I really was in this place where do I want to dive into coaching? Do I want to dive into mentorship? What does it look like? And at the same time I was reached out to from this Dharma Coaching Institute to see if there could be some work that we could do together to share sound with some of their graduates. And that’s when I, you know, was I discovered that program and I thought, whoa, this is actually really interesting.

and dove head first and did my certification. And it actually took me a while to begin working with people one -on -one. I’m such a believer in divine timing and part of it was fear. And then the other part of it was really feeling ready to step up in that way and hold space for people in that way. But it’s such a gift to get to not guide people because we all have the answers within us. It’s more so just.

shining a light on that inner compass that we all carry of following our highest excitement, following our curiosities while not having much attachment to it, right? Not thinking that just because I want to maybe pursue pottery, it means that I have to monetize. It’s more so there’s a curiosity here and maybe I’ll follow that and see where that leads me. And I find that when working with Dharma, that’s the biggest…

missing link that in Western culture I think we miss. It’s not about the monetization and capitalizing on this beautiful new passion that we’ve uncovered. It’s more so just following our curiosity and removing attachment from the outcome of what we think it needs to look like. And it’s, yeah, it’s continuing to guide me in my personal journey every day.

Brett (10:31)

I love how you talked about the inner compass. What kind of actionable tips do you have for listeners who are maybe like, I want to get in touch with that inner compass, or I feel like I’m getting mixed messages about what I want to be doing. What would you say to someone who’s maybe in that situation, or they feel like a push pull energy around, you know, perhaps what their big dream is?

Natalie Valle

Yeah, you know, the biggest tool that I have found to be really impactful is to find a space where you can meditate on this. And the best way I can explain it is to think of having an angel and a devil on your shoulder, or maybe your highest self and your saboteur. And as you begin to meditate on, I’m getting mixed messages. Okay, the first message is this.

and really dropping into your heart space and allowing this message to come from your heart and asking yourself, is this message coming from my higher self or is it coming from my saboteur? And at the beginning, it might be hard. It might be hard to understand clearly where the message is coming from, but even just getting into the practice of asking ourselves where the mixed messages are coming from will help us begin to have an idea of…

actually this message is my intuition guiding me that this is not my path or this is my saboteur, this is my ego mind maybe speaking from a place of fear wanting to keep me safe. And what I find powerful is sitting down in meditation and as questions arise whether it’s mixed messaging or you get an intuitive ping and you don’t know if it’s fear or if it’s intuition guiding you because that’s very common. It’s sitting down and asking ourselves,

Is this message coming from my higher self? Is it coming from my saboteur? And if the answer is still not clear, putting pen to paper and actually writing down my higher self, my saboteur, and writing out what the message is or what the concept is that you’re trying to figure out where it’s coming from, and just free writing and see where that messaging is coming from. And pretty quickly, we begin to realize, okay, this is actually an intuitive ping.

because it feels, it’s very, we can tap into the Clares, right? Clarescentian, of how it feels in our body. If it feels constricting, if it feels heavy, right? Maybe sometimes that’s a feeling that’s coming from our ego mind, from our saboteur, that’s a place of trying to keep us safe. Because that’s all the ego’s trying to do, is trying to keep us safe.

And if the feeling feels expansive, if it feels warm, even if it is a no, but the no feels like a full body, like settled, anchored, rooted, maybe that’s a message from the higher self. And so that’s one way that we can begin to get out of our heads and start to drop into a higher perspective to see where this message is coming from.

Brett

Yeah, it’s kind of like having that, you know, the dual column list of one thing on the other side and actually doing that journaling work or doing it in a meditative state. I love that. And I think, you know, I was talking to someone on the show recently about intuition and she was saying how it’s so easy to get intuitive things and kind of fear mixed up because usually we get the intuitive hit and then we feel fear right after because of what our intuition just told us because often it’s telling us to do things that are scary.

Natalie Valle

Yeah.

Brett

So just doing some work to untangle that makes a lot of sense. What are some of the biggest problems your clients come to you with when it comes to, you know, figuring out whether they do want to monetize something or not, right? Because there’s pros and cons to both. So kind of what are the processes or steps you walk someone through when they’re thinking about, you know, do I want to make this pottery or this yoga teaching really my career or is that something I just want to keep maybe just for me? And then is it my Dharma or is it a hobby?

How do you pick apart all that?

Natalie Valle

Yeah, I think the first, to answer your first question, the biggest hindrance that a lot of my clients tend to come to me with as it relates to whether it’s taking that next step or figuring out what they want to do with this newfound passion or curiosity. A lot of the times I find that it’s our limiting beliefs that hold us back. It’s that sense of whether it’s worthiness, of whether we think,

that we’re worthy of actually moving forward with something that we’re passionate about or our capability to do so. And so when it comes to limiting beliefs, I mean, it’s the biggest tool that I like to tap into, pun intended, is actually tapping, emotional freedom technique. Because a lot of times we think that we have to have an answer. We go from, we’re feeling stuck, we’re feeling frustrated, and we just want to come out on the other side.

But what happens is the body needs to process everything that’s happening. The body needs to move the energy, the emotion that is hindering it from taking that next step, from feeling free from it. And so tapping, emotional freedom technique, is such a powerful way to sit with what’s present and also work through what you’re working through in real time in a way that is very sovereign and self -sufficient because…

The beauty of tapping is that, yes, you can do it with a practitioner, but also you can do it on your own and just use what’s present for you. And so if you want, I can kind of show us a different tapping point so that those listening can go back and replay it. And many of us might already be familiar with it because tapping really is such a powerful tool that we can have in our back pocket that we don’t need anybody else to walk us through it. But when it comes to tapping, let’s say…

There is somebody who wants to step into teaching yoga, but they don’t feel like they’re ready or they don’t feel like they’re good enough yet or whatever that limiting belief might be. First, it’s just accepting ourselves as we are in this moment. And so we would come and tap the karate chop point. This is kind of the first point. And for example, we might say, even though I don’t feel like I’m ready to teach yoga,

I completely and deeply love and accept myself. Even though I feel unworthy of stepping into that place of leading and teaching, I deeply and completely love and accept myself. And it’s helping us feel safe in that it’s okay to feel this way, first of all. We’re not gonna spiritually bypass it. We’re not gonna shame ourselves. We’re gonna say, it’s okay. I’m okay. I’m allowed to feel this way. I’m okay. And then we come to the crown of the head.

And we begin to maybe explore, explore what is it that comes up when we feel the unworthiness, when we feel like we’re not ready, right? Maybe I feel unworthy, maybe, and then we’ll voice that, I feel unworthy. And then we tap over the eyebrow, and then maybe we explore, what does it mean about me? Okay, it means that I’m not ready to be a teacher, I’m not good enough to be a teacher. We tap the side of the eye.

And how does that make me feel? It makes me feel bad about myself. It makes me feel ashamed. It makes me feel like all the time I put into my teacher training was a waste. And then we come under the eye and then maybe we explore, is this actually true? Well, no, I did 200 hours with Brett of yoga teacher training. I put in a lot of time and effort. So, you know, I put work in, tap over my lip.

And then maybe we might explore what could be a different story. Well, maybe a different story is that I want to show up for my students and so I’m nervous. Tapping the chin and then maybe we explore, okay, well, what does it mean to be nervous because you want to show up for your students? It means that I care. It means that this is really important to me. We tap the collarbones.

And then maybe we begin to formulate a new story. I care about this a lot, and that’s making me really nervous. And maybe that’s where we’re at, and that’s okay. And then the final point, we tap under the armpit if you wear bras right at the bra line.

And then maybe we just end it with, and I’m willing to move through it with ease, with grace, with compassion. And so those are all the different tapping points. And typically when I’m working with somebody who has a limiting belief present, that’s holding them back, tapping is such a beautiful way to drop into acceptance, to be like, this is where I’m at, that’s okay. Feel safe in it, and then maybe begin to find a new story.

Because what are limiting beliefs other than just stories that we tell ourselves, perspectives that we choose to see the world through? And it’s hard to build new neural pathways, but it’s possible, right? And tapping is one of those tools that’s both psychosomatic. We use neuro -linguistic programming, using languaging that’s impactful to us, and then working through the body to begin to down -regulate the amygdala so we feel safe, to begin to…

access the subconscious mind and begin to tap meridian points so that we begin to release energy in the body.

Brett

It’s interesting because it felt like almost like the points that we were tapping had to do with kind of the prompts and the things you were inviting us to think about. Like, you know, we thought about the new story as we were tapping the mouth again. And is there anything you want to say about it? But it just seemed like it was a very intentional kind of loop that you walked us through going from the hand to the top of the head, then kind of down the face and then down the chest to the armpit.

Natalie Valle

Mm -hmm.

Yeah, yeah, I like to think of it in that we start here just to anchor what is present and then we begin at the head to move through what’s in the mind at the moment and then as we move down we begin to integrate the new story, right? We call out what’s present, we begin to shift that perspective, begin to create a new story and then we anchor it into the body so that it’s rooted and integrated. I’m happy that you noticed that.

Brett

Yeah, I know it seemed really intentional. And I’m curious, how have you seen, just because you have so much knowledge in sound healing and then also kind of this work around Dharma and life purpose, if someone wants to work with sound as a way to kind of better understand their own internal compass, is there anything in particular you would recommend or invite them to think about or where have you seen those two modalities kind of weave together?

Natalie Valle

Yeah, my favorite intersection of subconscious work, limiting belief work, mindset work, and sound is working with certain frequencies that can actually entrain our brain. And so the beauty of sound is that it’s so vast and big and there’s so much that we can do with it, but…

The niche that I want to touch on right now is this concept of binaural beats. And so you’ve probably heard of binaural beats. You can go on Spotify, listen to binaural beats playlist, but what binaural beats are, we think of bi is two, neural, right? Brain of the brain. And so when you put one frequency in one ear and another frequency in another ear, you have two ears, but one brain. So what are…

brilliant brain does is it splits the difference. So real world example, let’s say I put 110 Hertz in this ear and 115 Hertz in this ear. So 110, 115, the difference between that is five, right? 110, 115, the brain actually perceives five Hertz because the two ears are hearing two different things, but the brain can only perceive one.

What’s powerful about five hertz is that five hertz is a theta brainwave frequency. And why that’s important is because that begins to almost hypnotize the brain into theta. And when we hypnotize the brain into theta, we move it out of the prefrontal cortex and we drop into the subconscious mind. And now that we’re in the subconscious mind, this is fertile ground. You can plant whatever seeds you want into that.

And the subconscious mind doesn’t know what is truth and what is a lie, for better or for worse, right? And so if you’re feeding your subconscious mind the affirmations, the manifestations that you’re calling in, in real time, your subconscious mind takes it and runs with it. The same thing with limiting beliefs, right? If you’re feeding your subconscious mind, I’m not good enough, I’m not worthy, X, Y, and Z, whatever those are, the subconscious mind takes it and runs with it. That’s why it’s so hard.

sometimes to uproot limiting beliefs. Now, what’s beautiful about sound is that we can actually use sound through binaural beats to entrain the brain to remove this gatekeeper that is the prefrontal cortex and immediately access the subconscious. And then from there, you can work with affirmations that are supportive that you want to plant that will actually grow. And the reason that that’s super interesting is because…

Humans can only hear about 20 to 20 ,000 hertz, which is cycles per second. And the theta brainwave frequency is between 0 .4 to 7 hertz. And so that falls under the range that’s audible. So if you were to play 7 hertz, we wouldn’t be able to hear it. But if you use binaural beats, you can almost biohack sound and the auditory system to begin to access the subconscious mind. Does that make sense?

Brett

Yeah, I love like the more scientific explanation of it. I’ve never heard it exactly that way. And that’s super cool. It’s amazing that we actually have the ability to do that by just like listening to a track on Spotify, like makes me think we should all do it more often. And I feel like even within the, like if I go to a playlist for binaural beats on Spotify, there’ll be different options and there’ll be different hurts that I can tap into, or they have different ones for the chakras. I mean, is there anything you want to share about that?

Natalie Valle

Yeah.

Yeah, you know, there is a lot of research still to be done about what you’re talking about is solfeggio frequencies. So if you type solfeggio frequencies on YouTube or Spotify, playlists will come up of different songs that are created using a certain frequency. And the solfeggio frequencies have been studied not extensively, but they’ve been studying enough to find that certain frequencies are really powerful for

that have particular benefits, right? Like 528 Hertz is a really beautiful frequency to open up the heart space, to allow us to drop into a sense of compassion, you know, to embody forgiveness. So the sulfegio frequencies are something that are really interesting to me. And if you go, like I said, like if you go on Spotify, you can look up different frequencies that have different benefits. And I think…

we’re going to begin to see as time goes on more research being done around this because there isn’t enough right now, but we know that sound has such a capacity to impact the human body, not only physiologically, but we experience sound, not just audibly. We also experience sound through skin conduction, through bone conduction. And so,

these frequencies that are being emitted into the body can have profound impacts in our energetic bodies, our mental bodies, our endocrine system, our glands through activating emotion. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So if you think of an antenna,

Brett

So when you say skin and bone, what exactly does that mean? I’m curious. Tell us more.

Natalie Valle

When a frequency is emitted into an antenna, it vibrates and it begins to process that frequency. Our skin and our bones act in the same way. So when you’re, let’s say you’re at a concert, not only are you hearing the sound of the music, but your skin and your bones are conducting, vibrating at that same frequency. And so I’m very picky with the sounds that I allow myself to be immersed in.

because it does have a profound impact on our physiological system. They have found that some frequencies are more beneficial, other frequencies can be more disruptive, can create more chaos in the body. And so, yeah, when we’re immersed with sound, we’re also like our skin, our bones, the water in our bodies is also vibrating with the sounds. We’re not just hearing it and perceiving it.

Brett

Yeah, I know in Kundalini Yoga, they talk about sound as a sacred teacher and the nod, right? And certain types of music having qualities that I guess is just more beneficial for us than other types of sound. So it’s almost like sound nutrition, you know, thinking about what you want to intake. Before we let you go, is there anything you want to share with us around manifestation or kind of tying all these different tools together?

Natalie Valle

Yeah.

Brett

I know that’s something you also speak on a lot, and I’m sure it’s a topic of interest to folks here.

Natalie Valle

Yeah, you know, I think I want to circle back to your first question because I realized I never answered it and I’ll answer the question around manifestation by answering your first question, which is Nike. You asked about Nike. And what’s beautiful is that that is a manifestation that I brought to fruition in a way that required me to be so removed from the outcome of the manifestation that I didn’t even know what it was going to look like. And so…

When we think about manifestation, you know, I think vision boards are such a beautiful practice to just get creativity involved, get, you know, tactical activities involved. And at the same time, it’s important that when we write out our manifestation list, we focus more on the feeling that these manifestations are going to bring rather than the actual…

physical representation, the actual tangible material thing that we think this manifestation needs to look like. And what I mean by that is, for example, I had written in my manifestations for last year that I was calling in support in my work and my business in a way that really created expansion.

not only financially, but also working with brands, working with aligned partners that provided a platform for me to be able to share in an authentic way, in a way that celebrated me, a Latina woman, a brown person. I really wanted an aligned brand partnership and I’ve worked with many brands in the past and I’m so grateful for them, but those things weren’t.

advancing like I wanted them to. The partnerships weren’t growing like I wanted them to. And so I knew that there was a bigger, bigger manifestation at play here. So I just trusted the process. So much so that the way that Nike came into my field. And so I had written down that I wanted more support in my work. I wanted more stability, right? Because you know how it is, being an entrepreneur, especially a solprenuer.

there isn’t always stability, especially in the beginning, right? It’s always the sense of like, you create and then the abundance comes in and some months are super expansive, other months are more contractive and that’s okay, that’s the journey. And so I was really calling in the sense of stability, the sense of expansion and a platform for me to share authentically as I was. And that was it, I let it go. I didn’t say, you know, I need it to be.

free people or I need it to be Nike, you know, I just kind of let it go. And last year, it was like February of 2023, I went to a women’s circle and I was filling my cup. I was just attending. People did not know what I did for work. You know, I didn’t go representing Love and Alchemy. I was just an attendee.

And at this women’s circle, they had us partner with another attendee to do some partner work. And we were, you know, doing exercises, reflecting back and forth. And the woman that I was partnered with, she and I just hit it off. We clicked. I was, you know, fully just like being myself, sharing my heart, no agenda, had no idea who she was. She had no idea who I was. And so much so that at the end of it, we were like, let’s connect, let’s be friends, let’s get coffee. You know, like we were just like…

So, so giddy to know each other. And we connect on Instagram and she messages me shortly after and she’s like, we need to speak. And I was like, why, what’s going on? And she was like, I had partnerships at Nike and I wanna talk to you about your work. And that’s how Nike came to be. It was this thing that I sort of just, you know, I was filling my cup. I was focusing on, on…

You know, I was doing all the work on the back end of building my brand and my business, but the way that Nike came into my field was the most beautiful, serendipitous way that I could have never have imagined. And so, you know, I spoke with her and we realized that there was a lot of synergy around my vision, my nonprofit, Latinas Who Meditate, my work in mindfulness. And at the time they were expanding into what is now Nike Well Collective. So there was just a lot of synergy there.

And that’s how I became a Nike mindfulness coach, which is pretty wild. And when sharing about, you know, manifestation and Dharma, I love leaning on the seven spiritual laws of success by Deepak Chopra because the law of Dharma really talks about how everybody has a purpose. Everybody has a sole purpose that they came to fulfill in this incarnation. And,

For me, I really feel like that was part of it. That was part of me stepping into this place, me coming to Los Angeles. And so the law of Dharma really talks about that, you know, we have taken a physical form to fulfill a purpose. And when we think about the seven spiritual laws of success, there’s also…

the law of detachment, the law of not becoming so attached to what we think it needs to look like to allow yourself the freedom to just be who you are, authentically yourself, and not to force things. Just allow things to come with ease. And of course, sometimes we have to take action, we have to put in the work, but we do so because it’s what we want to do, not because we expect an outcome to come from it. Yeah.

Brett

It’s a common theme that I’ve heard you say a couple of times now, and it’s worth just reiterating as we close out here is something for everyone to hopefully really remember, just this theme of non -attachment, right? Which we see also in the yoga sutras, you know, practice and non -attachment, but this idea that we usually get what we want when we are kind of, when we’ve relinquished control, essentially, of the outcome and we’re not grasping or clenching.

or have the thing and like this vice grip. So the other thing I love about your story is that you were actually doing self care when you met this other woman. It’s not like you went to this event to network or get ahead. There was no strategizing. It was actually you doing something that felt authentic to you to fill yourself up. And

If anyone’s listening who’s done the Yoga for Self Mastery program I offer, these are two of the essential skills that you demonstrated in this story, right? You did Svadyaya, which I call the nourishing self -awareness of self -care, just doing what you wanted to do. And then you relinquished control over exactly how these brand partnerships needed to work. And then like the universe just gifted you like exactly something probably better than you could have expected.

So I love that you shared that story with us. Very, very cool. And I think that’s great for anyone who’s wanting to manifest something is just, I think, and let me know if you’d agree, but it’s like doing that work, listening to the music, planting those thoughts deep in your subconscious, those desires. I always like to talk about just pure desires, pure longings, because those can never be wrong.

Natalie Valle

yeah.

Brett

Pure desires also don’t usually have like conditions or you know, if this then that or you know, a micromanaging list. A desire is just a desire, right? And it doesn’t have a strategy, usually component. It’s just you want it because you want it and that’s what makes it authentic to you and pure. So, you know, really putting those desires in the fertile ground that you talked about of the subconscious or when you’re meditating or lying down or doing a vision board journaling, whatever works for you.

but then really just practicing self -care and relinquishing control and trusting. That’s the thing. We need to trust. We need to trust. And that is the hardest part because most of us don’t have evidence of what we want yet. And the logical mind says, well, if there’s not evidence, then you can’t believe it. But that’s like what every spiritual tradition is about is believing it despite the fact that there’s no evidence. And if we look at even biblical stories, that’s what most of them are about, right? It’s about.

that waiting period of having to have faith while God or a higher power asks you to do crazy things like take your only child to a mountain and murder him or, you know, like, but these are what all of these stories are about. And so I think it’s just so beautiful to re echo that it’s about trust. We have to have faith. And that usually requires.

Natalie Valle

Yeah.

Brett

a feeling of discomfort. And that’s why we need all these tools that you shared with us today, the sound healing, the tapping, the yoga, the breath work, so that we can stay calm amidst the discomfort while we trust and wait. So thank you so much.

Natalie Valle

Thank you for having me. And I love that in your program, those are the things that you talk about because it’s true. All you can do is take the next right step and trust and take a lined action and then let go and see what happens. Because the universe will respond. If you take a lined action, the universe will respond.

Brett

Yeah, because we live in an energetic universe. Woohoo, thank goodness. So we can trust that. Natalie, I’m going to put your links, your Instagram, everything in the show notes, but just tell people where they can find you, who’s best suited to work with you, all those good things so that they can keep in touch.

Natalie Valle

That’s it. Thank goodness.

Yeah, thank you. So all my offerings are online at loveandelchemy.com That’s also how you can find me on the socials at loveandelchemy.com And I love working with people who want to dive into sound healing. I have sound practitioner trainings. And then if you’re curious about working with Dharma one -on -one, love working in that way too. And yeah, just love connecting with people. So send me a DM if you have questions around sound or manifestation, or you just want to chat.

and would be delighted to connect with you.

Brett

Everyone make sure to lie down and listen to some of these beats that we’ve been talking about in this episode and just relax and maybe plant an idea or something you desire. Like think about it as you just rest without any strategy attached. Just allow yourself to feel the pure desire of it. And that could be some really great self care for you today. All right. We’re sending you so much love and from my heart to yours. Namaste.